She Lost Her Child & Husband: From Grief to Growth w/ CMO of Netflix, Uber&Apple, Bozoma Saint John

This week, Valeria is joined by former CMO at Netflix and Endeavor, and former chief brand officer at Uber, the one and only Bozoma Saint John!

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This week, Valeria is joined by former CMO at Netflix and Endeavor, and former chief brand officer at Uber, the one and only Bozoma Saint John! From the loss of her boyfriend, daughter and husband, Bozoma has lived through unimaginable loss and grief but has still been able to forge a path for herself and become her own light within the darkness. 

In this episode, Valeria and Bozoma dive deep into her book, ‘The Urgent Life’, discuss how intuition plays a role in healing, using emotions like grief, anger, and regret as motivation, and what happiness really means. 

Make sure to get your copy of Bozoma’s book, “The Urgent Life,” to embark on a journey of healing, courage, and embracing life's urgency. Grab your copy here:

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What We Talked About:

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:38 Trusting your intuition
  • 05:47 Break away from rules that don’t apply to you
  • 10:01 The role of intuition in healing and transformation
  • 15:30 When should you seek advice?
  • 18:19 “There’s no mistakes in life, just delayed opportunities…”
  • 20:34 Different types of grief
  • 25:03 Embracing grief as a part of healing
  • 27:50 Celebrating what could have been
  • 30:25 How grief, anger, and regret can propel you forward
  • 37:52 What is happiness?
  • 39:04 Creating the light for yourself
  • 44:17 The complicated gift of knowing the end
  • 47:41 The Urgent Life
  • 52:18 Navigating loss and grief with your child
  • 59:38 Prioritizing yourself
  • 1:04:32 Focusing on what you’re good at
  • 1:10:29 Going beyond dreams



Bozoma Saint John

Bozoma Saint John is a Hall of Fame Inducted Marketing Executive, Entrepreneur and Author of her memoir, The Urgent Life— and she is worthy of the Harvard Business School case study written about her career, titled “Leading with Authenticity and Urgency.” She is a dynamic and influential business leader who has consistently broken barriers and shattered glass ceilings throughout her career in various industries; including roles as the Global CMO of Netflix, CMO of Endeavor, CBO of Uber, Head of Marketing of Apple Music & iTunes and Head of Music and Entertainment Marketing at PepsiCo. With her distinctive style, fearless leadership, and commitment to making the world a more inclusive place, Bozoma Saint John continues to leave an indelible mark on the business world and beyond. Bozoma’s work has been lauded and awarded with notable recognition including (but not limited to) induction into the Marketing Hall of Fame (2022), induction into the American Advertising Federation Hall of Achievement (2014), induction into Billboard’s Women in Music Hall of Fame (2018); and has been included in Fast Company’s Most Creative People (2013), The Hollywood Reporter’s Women in Entertainment Power 100 list (2018) and crowned as The World's Most Influential CMO by Forbes (2021). Bozoma Saint John is not just a corporate powerhouse; she is a vocal advocate for diversity and inclusion in the workplace, using her platform to inspire change and empower women and underrepresented groups. Born in Ghana and raised in the United States, Bozoma Saint John’s journey to success is an inspirational tale of perseverance and ambition. Her charismatic and unapologetic approach to leadership has made her a beacon of inspiration for professionals worldwide. Boz has expanded her service outside of the US, and been named as an Ambassador for the African Diaspora and Special Envoy to the President of Ghana. Boz is also a philanthropic Ambassador to Pencils of Promise in Ghana and serves on the boards of Vital Voices, Soho House and the CFDA. In academic circles, Boz sits on the Board of Trustees at her alma mater, Wesleyan University. She has also created a public online class, “The Badass Workshop” to teach the nuances of achieving success when one feels like an outsider, and to become their greatest selves. She is a true trailblazer, breaking down barriers for future generations of leaders and leaving a legacy of innovation and empowerment. But by far her greatest achievement is in raising her 14 year old daughter, Lael.


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